Abbreviated transcript with real time code idents available in departmental files. The next tape chronologically is FV 2810 (RG-60.5451)-- 22 05 87 02 -- 8 AV 48 -- AQ 80047.
13:37 President Cerdini calls the session to order; asks that the accused present himself; Barbie refuses to appear; Cerdini calls on the bailiff to compel the accused to appear 13:38 The bailiff reads the names of the witnesses scheduled to give testimony in the session; one witness who was scheduled to appear will not be able to appear in Lyon before June 5, 1987 13:40 Cerdini suspends the session while the bailiff goes to Barbie to compel him to appear 14:04 Cerdini calls the session to order; the bailiff reads Barbie's statement that he refuses to appear 14:07 Cerdini calls witness Irène Clair, née Fremion; the witness presents herself to the court 14:09 The witness entered the French Resistance as the secretary of a Department Chief, Lucien Bonnet, and transmitted orders from London which she decoded; she was arrested in a raid along with her colleagues on March 9, 1944, held at gunpoint, and taken to Barbie's office; Bonnet was already being held by Barbie; the witness spent a night at the Gestapo headquarters in which she could hear wolfhounds attacking screaming detainees, before being transferred to Montluc; a week later, she was brought back to Barbie's office where she saw Bonnet again, and he told her her that he had been extensively tortured by Barbie; for two months, Barbie called her from Montluc to his office, where he would beat her and ask her to identify Resistants, which she refused to do; she was eventually sent on a transport to the Romainville camp near Paris, and then, two weeks later, to Ravensbrück 14:19 It took two weeks for the train to arrive at Ravensbrück from Romainville, during which time many in her transport fell ill; she describes the arrival at Ravensbrück and elements of daily life there; the witness fell ill and was taken to a bloc for the ill, where many had been sterilized 14:25 President Cerdini asks the witness how she was able to identify her interrogator as Barbie; she replies that his colleagues called him by name; Cerdini asks her whether she knows who ordered her deportation, and she replies that it was Barbie himself, for he told her personally that she was,"going on a tri" 14:28 The attorney general comments on the witness' bravery, and gives statistics regarding how many women survived Ravensbrueck 14:32 The bailiff is called to aid the next witness, Mrs. Lesevre, in walking to the witness stand; though quite elderly, the witness refuses to sit down while testifying 14:33 The witness, Lise Lesèvre, 86 years old, presents herself to the court; Mrs. Lesèvre is a civil party in the suit against Barbie; she was a member of the Resistance who was arrested by the Lyon Gestapo in March 1944; she was carrying classified Resistance documents including a letter for the regional leader of the Resistance leader, whose codename was Didier; the Gestapo found the letter and Lesèvre was taken to the Montluc prison, where she was interrogated and tortured by Barbie; Barbie had Lesèvre's husband and teenaged son brought into Montluc, and continued to have her tortured by several different methods; the witness refused to give Barbie any information; the witness comments on Barbie's pleasure at seeing the bodies of inmates who had been tortured 14:47 Mrs. Lesèvre was sent a lawyer, but the lawyer did no more than read her death sentence to her in German; she appeared before a military tribunal, where she was read the death sentence again and told she was a terrorist; a German officer (who was not SS) congratulated her on her bravery 14:51 The witness describes her last interrogations by Barbie and his men, in which they were drunk; she describes her deportation to Romainville and then to Ravensbrueck 14:56 End of tape
Barbie Trial -- Day 10 -- Two former members of the Resistance testify